How Far, How Near. Social consequences of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict
Konstanty Gebert in conversation with Patrycja Sasnal
Abou-Rahme & Abbas, "Incidental Insurgents: The Part about the Bandits", 2012-, installation, courtesy of the artists and the Caroll/Fletcher Gallery, London
Patrycja Sasnal's conversation with Konstanty Gebert is the next event in the cycle organized by the Museum in cooperation with the Institute of Advanced Studies.
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the longest ongoing conflict in the world: it started nearly 70 years ago, claiming over 100,000 victims. After a quarter of a century of peace talks, the sides are further from peace than they were when the negotiations started. Since the establishment of the Israeli state and the awakening of the Palestinian identity, the conflict has spread, rooting itself in the minds of the Israeli and the Palestinians, later deforming and as such, perpetrating the youngest generations in both nations.
Those who remember the times of peace and the first formative armed conflicts of 1948, 1956, or even the dominant 1967 war, pass on. Younger Israelis and Palestinians, brought up in fear and humiliation, remain. The influence of the 70 years of conflict on both nations and their subsequent generations, and the direction of the changes is the theme of the talk between Patrycja Sasnal and Konstanty Gebert.
Konstanty Gebert - journalist and columnist for Gazeta Wyborcza, founder of Polish-Jewish “Midrasz” monthly magazine, expert in the Warsaw office of the European Council on Foreign Relations and council member of the Taube Centre for the Renewal of Jewish Life in Poland and Einstein Forum. Since 1976, he cooperated with the Workers' Defence Committee and later the Committee for Social Self-defence KOR and co-established the so-called Jewish Flying University and was member of the Independent Self-Governing Trade Union of Scientific, Technical and Educational Employees (Polish: NSZZ PNTiO). He was an accredited independent press journalist at the Polish Round Table talks, and from 1992 to 1993, he accompanied Tadeusz Mazowiecki in his role of the UN Special Envoy in missions to former Yugoslavia. Also known under the “Dawid Warszawski” pseudonym.
Patrycja Sasnal – political scientist, Arabist, manager of the project "Middle East and North Africa" in the Polish Institute of International Affairs, Fulbright scholarship holder at SAIS, Johns Hopkins University in Washington DC, researcher at the American University in Beirut, lecturer of the Jagiellonian University. She is interested in the policy of Europe and the US in the Middle East and the social and political transformations in the Arab world. She published her articles in “Al-Ahram”, “Le Monde”, “EUobserver”, “Polityka” and “Gazeta Wyborcza”, among others.